Daniel Levy - Former Chairman

[Muttley]

It wasn’t just Hoddle.

Didn’t Robbie Keane say the same thing, when he was working with his agent’s agency at the time?

It doesn't really matter who says it. It's the start sh itting or get off the pot conundrum.

They all want to sound smart and undermine Poch, yet none of of them are brave enough to name names.

My view in 2018 was that I would have like to seen us buy a couple of fantastic U21s. I fully understand we couldn't get A-list elite stars. That was the pattern with Levy and that recruitment setup for years. It was all hot air from them. However, they could have switched strategy and invested for the future. Poch was fantastic of his nurturing of Kane, Dele, Walker, Rose, Winksy etc. They should have been looking for that profile so we didn't end up empty handed.

 

[Lemonade Money]

We were never going to replace those players like for like, we probably had 7 of the best 11 players in the world in their positions at the time, the issue isn’t that we didn’t replace them, it’s that that group didn’t win anything.

This was Levy's plan all along. Assemble a manager and a group of players who were nearly good enough. And if they looked like they might (GHod forbid) win something, he had a backup; buy them all engraved watches.

 

[Lemonade Money]

Poch was a stubborn spoilt child, 'If I can't have the best players, I'm not playing'.
He wanted to spunk our load on Hulk FFS.
He should've been bringing through another batch of talented youngsters, like he did the first time. That's on him.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Poch was a stubborn spoilt child, 'If I can't have the best players, I'm not playing'.
He wanted to spunk our load on Hulk FFS.
He should've been bringing through another batch of talented youngsters, like he did the first time. That's on him.

Hulk was AVB. Poch wanted Mane and Wijnaldum

 

[Lemonade Money]

Hulk was AVB. Poch wanted Mane and Wijnaldum

And Ndombele and Lo Celso.

 

[Gutter Boy]

And Ndombele and Lo Celso.

I still think it was a sliding doors moment for both of them - i.e. they could potentially have had great careers with us, if we'd given Poch the season to begin building his second team, instead of switching to an anti-football dinosaur

 

[Lemonade Money]

I still think it was a sliding doors moment for both of them - i.e. they could potentially have had great careers with us, if we'd given Poch the season to begin building his second team, instead of switching to an anti-football dinosaur

Such a shame they had their great careers elsewhere...

 

[Gutter Boy]

Such a shame they had their great careers elsewhere...

But they lost those key years of their development, when they perhaps needed a progressive nurturing coach

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

But they lost those key years of their development, when they perhaps needed a progressive nurturing coach

Lo Celso had a fair career away from Spurs in fairness to him. Ndombele is just a waste

 

[BigChiv9]

And Ndombele and Lo Celso.

As far as I remember, Poch wanted Bruno Fernandes and Lo Celso was the (cheaper) consolation prize

 

[billyiddo]

Poch was a stubborn spoilt child, 'If I can't have the best players, I'm not playing'.
He wanted to spunk our load on Hulk FFS.
He should've been bringing through another batch of talented youngsters, like he did the first time. That's on him.

Hulk was AVB

 

[Mikey10]

As far as I remember, Poch wanted Bruno Fernandes and Lo Celso was the (cheaper) consolation prize

Didn't we buy the wrong Fernandes (Gedson)?

 

[Bishop]

We were never going to replace those players like for like, we probably had 7 of the best 11 players in the world in their positions at the time, the issue isn’t that we didn’t replace them, it’s that that group didn’t win anything.

Gas. If you think we had the 7 best players in their positions you need to see a optician.

And Ndombele and Lo Celso.

If he had gotten Wijnaldum we would have never gone for Ndombele. If we had gotten Fernandes (as he wanted) we wouldn't have gone for Lo Celso. Both are cases of not getting the ideal choice and having to find an alternative.

 

[Bishop]

Didn't we buy the wrong Fernandes (Gedson)?

No that was later under Mourinho. Some weird sort of agent appeasement. I think they genuinely thought he had some potential but Jose barely played him once he'd seen him up close.

 

[JerusalemMan]

Didn't we buy the wrong Fernandes (Gedson)?

That was mercifully a loan.
I'm sure there was a story that we bought Stambouli by accident. As in, The manager had wanted a different player from PSG but miscommunication led to us getting him instead.

 

[Gutter Boy]

No that was later under Mourinho. Some weird sort of agent appeasement. I think they genuinely thought he had some potential but Jose barely played him once he'd seen him up close.

Yeah a bung for Jorge Mendes that we never saw any benefit from

 

[Gutter Boy]

That was mercifully a loan.
I'm sure there was a story that we bought Stambouli by accident. As in, The manager had wanted a different player from PSG but miscommunication led to us getting him instead.

The story was Poch wanted Morgan Schneiderlin, but our data team identified Stambouli as an identical player, but for 1/10th the price. Schneiderlin turned out to be crap outside of a Poch system anyway.

 

[metalgear]

And Ndombele and Lo Celso.

...after mane and wijnaldum, THEN Ndonbele and locelso

 

[harr1984]

Gas. If you think we had the 7 best players in their positions you need to see a optician.

If he had gotten Wijnaldum we would have never gone for Ndombele. If we had gotten Fernandes (as he wanted) we wouldn't have gone for Lo Celso. Both are cases of not getting the ideal choice and having to find an alternative.

Outside of the very biggest clubs in the world, most of the time you don't get your top targets - the players you mention went to Liverpool and Man Utd who are two such clubs.

This is the problem a club the next rung down in the chain is always going to face - Any coach outside of the true big boys in Europe are going to have to accept you aren't going to get your most most desired. So Poch would have to work with alternatives outside of his first choices, just like 99% of football managers do....

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

This is the problem a club the next rung down in the chain is always going to face - Any coach outside of the true big boys in Europe are going to have to accept you aren't going to get your most most desired. So Poch would have to work with alternatives outside of his first choices, just like 99% of football managers do....

Yep, its a reality that some don't want to admit to. And look we have made mistakes too (we are also not the only club to do that) but the reality is we shop in a very different market to some PL clubs for two reasons, or at least two reasons from the last 20 years - 1/Status 2/financial doping

Mane interview told out loud why he joined Liverpool and even then people don't want to listen to the words that come out.