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Sandro Tonali

Bedfordspurs said:
I think there are better options for sure
But it’s about RDZ and what he wants
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Better options or better available options? Because that differs. Vitinha is a better option, but would he leave PSG to join us if we had a £100m bid accepted? I would expect a Rivaldo style envelope appearing on the desk.

I am struggling to think so is realistically available, who could offer more then Tonali.
 
billyiddo said:
You're entitled to your opinion mate. I don't really see what he has brought to the team that wasn't already there and in terms of passing & progression of the ball he's a downgrade and part of why their play has become so slow and laboured since.
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Took half their corners which accounts for half their goals.
 
billyiddo said:
Yeah you're right silly me let's just park the thread until we sign him or move on to someone else
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Not sure if this was sarcasm Bill, but I thought you asked a good question - just think anyone valued higher than Tonali is at a big club already and out of our reach. Is there anyone you've got in mind?

The only other one in that price bracket who could potentially get to that level is the other guy we are allegedly in for, Fernandes....
 
billyiddo said:
Yeah I mean he's clearly a top level player and excellent at certain parts of the game - my disagreement was that he transformed their midfield. I don't think that's true. I actually think their midfield has regressed/stalled somewhat over the past couple of seasons though that's more down to the managers approach i supppose. City & Liverpool have both regressed recently - if they hadn't Arsenal probably don't win that title last season
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Yeh, he is good, he isnt this so called world class monster people make out he is.

His influence on Arsenal is also overstated IMO, finished 2nd the season before he joined, they also had a drop in points in his time. He is a good player in a very good side.
 
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demotw said:
Better options or better available options? Because that differs. Vitinha is a better option, but would he leave PSG to join us if we had a £100m bid accepted? I would expect a Rivaldo style envelope appearing on the desk.

I am struggling to think so is realistically available, who could offer more then Tonali.
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Wharton for me
And palace would sell for that kind of money
 
billyiddo said:
Back to Tonali...

£80m rejected, if we're going higher than that would there be better options available?
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It's probably fee and terms. That may be 80M including add ons or payment structure.

In my opinion, you read how clubs respond re rejection of bids, to me, how Saudi Sportswashing Machine has pushed back is one of those "it will happen" type responses.

Re Wharton/whoever, think a few people reported it's Tonali +another
 
Raziel said:
It's probably fee and terms. That may be 80M including add ons or payment structure.

In my opinion, you read how clubs respond re rejection of bids, to me, how Saudi Sportswashing Machine has pushed back is one of those "it will happen" type responses.

Re Wharton/whoever, think a few people reported it's Tonali +another
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What have they said?
 
thfcsteff said:
What's funny about some of our supporters is that they -

a) complain that we never spend money
b) complain we won't spend the big wages
c) complain we don't ever sign the big players
d) then complain at the thought of spending the big money
e) then complain we're overpaying for an average to good player
f) then complain the board is getting their pants pulled down and doesn't know what it's doing
g) then complain that they're spending money in areas it isnt needed

...among other things.

It's laughable!!!
It really is!
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Some people just want to complain I guess.

I'll be fair maybe it's not the same group making all of these complaints. 🤷🏿‍♂️

I prefer the way we are working now, fits how I think we should work much more.
 
We may not get Tonali especially if Emirates Marketing Project are sniffing around but it seems the Lewis Family are keeping their word in their end of season message to fans. Manager has been backed with Van Hecke, who is clearly his choice now a record bid for Tonali.

This will require investment – in our teams, the academy, our backroom functions and more - and we are fully committed to this. We are not selling the Club. We are all in. We are investing in it. You will see more of this in the coming months.

We care deeply about Spurs. The rebuild the Club needs, and you deserve, has begun. The change required is deep. It will take time and commitment, but change is happening.

We know that actions will speak louder than words.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Yeh, he is good, he isnt this so called world class monster people make out he is.

His influence on Arsenal is also overstated IMO, finished 2nd the season before he joined, they also had a drop in points in his time. He is a good player in a very good side.
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I think Partey is just as good if not better but his injury record was faaaaar worse which I guess makes up for it.
 
thfcsteff said:
What's funny about some of our supporters is that they -

a) complain that we never spend money
b) complain we won't spend the big wages
c) complain we don't ever sign the big players
d) then complain at the thought of spending the big money
e) then complain we're overpaying for an average to good player
f) then complain the board is getting their pants pulled down and doesn't know what it's doing
g) then complain that they're spending money in areas it isnt needed

...among other things.

It's laughable!!!
It really is!
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Post of the thread mate spot on, 👏
 
SirPercyHotspur said:
We may not get Tonali especially if Emirates Marketing Project are sniffing around but it seems the Lewis Family are keeping their word in their end of season message to fans. Manager has been backed with Van Hecke, who is clearly his choice now a record bid for Tonali.

This will require investment – in our teams, the academy, our backroom functions and more - and we are fully committed to this. We are not selling the Club. We are all in. We are investing in it. You will see more of this in the coming months.

We care deeply about Spurs. The rebuild the Club needs, and you deserve, has begun. The change required is deep. It will take time and commitment, but change is happening.

We know that actions will speak louder than words.
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The volume of their actions is certainly rising
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Yep, I just dont think Rice moved the Arsenal needle to the level people make out
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They didn’t need to move the needle that much. In signing Rice Arsenal did what we continually failed to do in the latter half of Pochettino’s reign…. They signed a reasonably young player who was better than the very good first team player they already had in the same position.
 
harr1984 said:
Not sure if this was sarcasm Bill, but I thought you asked a good question - just think anyone valued higher than Tonali is at a big club already and out of our reach. Is there anyone you've got in mind?

The only other one in that price bracket who could potentially get to that level is the other guy we are allegedly in for, Fernandes....
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80-100m is a lot of money, especially on the continent where you could probably have your pick of players from anyone outside of the big 4 (barca real bayern psg) and be able to pay the wages they wouldn't otherwise be able to get, so attracting them should be a possibility. Who those players are i don't know, hence the question
 
billyiddo said:
80-100m is a lot of money, especially on the continent where you could probably have your pick of players from anyone outside of the big 4 (barca real bayern psg) and be able to pay the wages they wouldn't otherwise be able to get, so attracting them should be a possibility. Who those players are i don't know, hence the question
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Yeah, I think RDZ really wants Tonali and we will go all out for him and overpay to get his man. But if it doesn't happen for whatever reason, I'd go to Wharton who should be a bit cheaper and still of real quality...
 
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