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Lucas Bergvall

robp135 said:
Forest are one of maybe a dozen clubs globally that can afford to pay a decent fee for what we consider to be fringe players.

Most of the foreign clubs want to sign players from Prem teams on loan or cut price deals. The top 5 teams in the Prem won’t sign our cast offs. The teams below us want to sign young talent at a bargain price.

We shouldn’t be letting what happened last summer prevent us from doing business.
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Like I said, not like we need the money anyway. We didn't go into this summer planning to sell Bergvall of Vuskovic, it just turned out that way. We have our valuation for clubs other than Forest, and we will hopefully have one for Forest that is 50% higher than the non-Forest one. If no one meets that price, Bergvall stays, and ends up home-grown and club-grown in a year.

Reputations matter. Being seen to be a doormat to Nottingham Forest by selling to them like nothing happened last summer has consequences in a business as irrational as football.

Levy got the half of it right - he was such a pain to buy players from that most clubs just stopped trying, to our benefit. But he was also a pain to sell to, which is the bit that ended up hurting us.

Keep part A (for clubs like Forest, anyway), drop Part B.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Like I said, not like we need the money anyway. We didn't go into this summer planning to sell Bergvall of Vuskovic, it just turned out that way. We have our valuation for clubs other than Forest, and we will hopefully have one for Forest that is 50% higher than the non-Forest one. If no one meets that price, Bergvall stays, and ends up home-grown and club-grown in a year.

Reputations matter. Being seen to be a doormat to Nottingham Forest by selling to them like nothing happened last summer has consequences in a business as irrational as football.

Levy got the half of it right - he was such a pain to buy players from that most clubs just stopped trying, to our benefit. But he was also a pain to sell to, which is the bit that ended up hurting us.

Keep part A (for clubs like Forest, anyway), drop Part B.
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I don’t know if that’s strictly true with Bergvall. He’s not come to the conclusion that his minutes will be limited based on reading twitter rumors about Tonali.
 
robp135 said:
The way the SCR rules work we would need a big profit on Danso to cash in.
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Danso was bought for £21m and has been amortised for 18 months. So slightly less would still break even.

I assume what you're saying is not about the player himself but about the bigger transfer equation of the club. We have to derive player profit from somewhere to balance things right? That means Bergval, Sarr, Vuskovic, Phillips, Romero, Devine, Lankshear etc is where we find measurable profit. Even Vic is 3 years amortised on £17m so there could be profit there. Dragu is £21m so I don't believe we'll see much there.
 
Muttley said:
Danso was bought for £21m and has been amortised for 18 months. So slightly less would still break even.

I assume what you're saying is not about the player himself but about the bigger transfer equation of the club. We have to derive player profit from somewhere to balance things right? That means Bergval, Sarr, Vuskovic, Phillips, Romero, Devine, Lankshear etc is where we find measurable profit. Even Vic is 3 years amortised on £17m so there could be profit there. Dragu is £21m so I don't believe we'll see much there.
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Correct. If you look at the players we could potentially sell this summer. This is what you would need to deduct from any transfer fee we receive.

Based on transfer fee, time at the club and most recent contact extension.

Vicario - £6.9M
Spence - £5.6M
Udogie - £9.6M
Dragusin - £12.5M
Phillips - £0.8M
Romero - £10.6M
Danso - £16.0M
Vuskovic - £9.6M
Bentancur - £8.6M
Sarr - £5.6M
Bergvall - £8.6M
Gallagher - £27.2M
Devine - £0.02M
Maddison - £18.0M
Solomon - Zero
Richarlison - £12.0M
Solanke - £39.0M
Tel - £26.67M
Lankshear - £0.58M
 
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